I think a large portion of the lagging adoption is that the people that drive for Uber or Lyft tend to be illegal immigrants on fake identifications of the apps since that role is much easier to get than one that requires real documentation and an actual w2.
The "social load" framing is really smart. I've noticed myself getting way more frustrated with other drivers over the past few years, and honestly never connected it to how much mental bandwidth my phone eats up even when I'm not actively using it. The construction worker hand signal example really shows how much of driving is basically negotiation through tiny gestures. What's interesting tho is the political ecnomy of scaling AVs - cities might resist not just from safety concerns but becuase they'd lose traffic enforcement revenue and parking fees. That hidden incentive structure could slow adoption way more than public safety debates.
Didn't really read the article, but what I tend to find very hard to motivate is the safety aspect of self driving. I just think it's not very compelling. Considering the insane amount of investments necessary to even get to a mostly autonomous country-wide car fleet and the "few" people who die each year in traffic, I just think those dollars are put elsewhere much more efficiently. I don't have anything against autonomous driving, I think it's really cool. I just find the safety aspect of it super uncompelling
Yeah, but my point is that if you want to be a Peter Singer then it‘s best you start with less money in a third world country because there it‘ll be much more cost effective to save lives, if this is what you‘re after
Since Waymo and the like drive significantly less than human drivers are you making the claim that the safety numbers will remain the same when robo cars scale? Or are you choosing to not address the issue of using safety numbers from a small and controlled dataset and extrapolating that to all driving nationwide.
I think a large portion of the lagging adoption is that the people that drive for Uber or Lyft tend to be illegal immigrants on fake identifications of the apps since that role is much easier to get than one that requires real documentation and an actual w2.
The "social load" framing is really smart. I've noticed myself getting way more frustrated with other drivers over the past few years, and honestly never connected it to how much mental bandwidth my phone eats up even when I'm not actively using it. The construction worker hand signal example really shows how much of driving is basically negotiation through tiny gestures. What's interesting tho is the political ecnomy of scaling AVs - cities might resist not just from safety concerns but becuase they'd lose traffic enforcement revenue and parking fees. That hidden incentive structure could slow adoption way more than public safety debates.
Lets collab
Didn't really read the article, but what I tend to find very hard to motivate is the safety aspect of self driving. I just think it's not very compelling. Considering the insane amount of investments necessary to even get to a mostly autonomous country-wide car fleet and the "few" people who die each year in traffic, I just think those dollars are put elsewhere much more efficiently. I don't have anything against autonomous driving, I think it's really cool. I just find the safety aspect of it super uncompelling
The current Value if a Statistical Life is 13.7 million.
https://www.transportation.gov/office-policy/transportation-policy/revised-departmental-guidance-on-valuation-of-a-statistical-life-in-economic-analysis
40,000 fatalities in the US is a 550 billion cost to society, annually. That does not include the cost of serious injury.
The safety aspect is real. Especially to the families of those ‘few’ that you refer to.
There is another unseen factor in the current road safety infrastructure doesn’t work very well for the growing weight of vehicles.
https://youtu.be/ZLwMroMmpC4?si=_exo1lABQAE5gFnd
The cost to upgrade the road safety infrastructure to a level to accommodate the changing vehicle fleet is in the trillions.
Yeah, but my point is that if you want to be a Peter Singer then it‘s best you start with less money in a third world country because there it‘ll be much more cost effective to save lives, if this is what you‘re after
Since Waymo and the like drive significantly less than human drivers are you making the claim that the safety numbers will remain the same when robo cars scale? Or are you choosing to not address the issue of using safety numbers from a small and controlled dataset and extrapolating that to all driving nationwide.