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Lauren Thomas's avatar

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David's avatar

20% using all of their leaves in France ? The sample must be overly biased against reality.

Also in France the legal minimum is 5 weeks (25days) and not 35 (that comes with special status). So unsure about where this data comes from ?

Lauren Thomas's avatar

RTT days are counted as vacation days, and most people aren’t using all their RTT days + PTO. I lived in France and I definitely don’t know a lot of people who use all of both…it’s quite a lot! (the 34 days is the median number of days granted, btw, not the legal minimum)

David's avatar

Interesting, as I have been working in France for 15 years and I do not know a single person that leaves RTTs on the table per year, let alone their minimum granted weeks per year. Whether in startups, mature companies or SMBs.

That is why I am asking if the % is based on quantitative data :-)

Lauren Thomas's avatar

Oh hmm, I’m surprised you found the 34 days number surprising then - it’s pretty close to other figures I’ve seen and is basically just the minimum 25 days off + the typical 8 RTT days + 1 extra day which could be wedding leave, seniority leave, birthday leave, or even just companies deciding to grant an extra day off above the minimum!

Even saving a half day would mean not taking 100% of one’s leave. I’m glad you found it interesting - that’s why sharing this sort of data is so important! At the end of the day there’s not much hard data on this topic, so it’s great to be able to share some!

David's avatar

The number of days is not surprising per se, but I believe the way they are presented can be mistaken as the minimal number of days for each french.

Anyway thanks for your work on this !